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Just had to share this. Interesting, isn't it, what people take offence to.

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How many people really are offended by nativity scenes, though?

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Sleet wrote:
How many people really are offended by nativity scenes, though?


Largely, it seems to depend on where the nativity is displayed. For example, putting on in front of the county court house is probably going to be akin to starting a fight.


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Probably just as many people as want to either call Christmas trees "holiday trees" or who want to just ban them outright. :P

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UGuardian wrote:
Sleet wrote:
How many people really are offended by nativity scenes, though?


Largely, it seems to depend on where the nativity is displayed. For example, putting on in front of the county court house is probably going to be akin to starting a fight.


Situations like this do seem to be the commonly occurring controversies. Otherwise I think people are more civil with displays of religion than the media makes them out to be.

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Honestly it feels like 8 years after this comic was made, so much has changed culturally that a nativity scene only seems like 1 of a million things people find offensive.

Even Lingerie Secret seems like something that today's feminist would deem to be objectifying women.

Don't get me wrong. I still can see people losing their minds over a nativity scene. It's just that Christianity is now far from exclusive to criticism of the politically correct.


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Then there was the whole "people being offended at a person who was offended by a cup" debacle. :roll:


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I don't think people were offended by the people offended so much as they made fun of them so as to make themselves look good.

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I don't think I've seen that many people upset over nativity scenes in front of private property, but people do get pretty angry when it's on government property. I do think people tend to overreact to it, but at the same time, I can see how it looks like the government endorsing one particular religion. Some people definitely get disgusted by the other things in that comic though; I follow some anti-porn groups, we definitely get "offended" by in-your-face sex themed ads all the time :P

I feel like I have to say though, the word "offended" has totally changed meanings...it used to mean something akin to "this makes me uncomfortable/disgusted/etc" and now it's almost exclusively just slung out as an accusation at anybody who dares question whether or not a commonplace thing is 100% appropriate, generally with the implication that the "offended" party's feelings are completely invalid. And of course, stopping to think about how your words and actions might affect other people gets you labeled as "politically correct" faster than anything. Also, people tend to assume that whatever somebody is "offended" by, they must want to ban, even though that's often not the case.

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Koshka wrote:
I don't think I've seen that many people upset over nativity scenes in front of private property, but people do get pretty angry when it's on government property. I do think people tend to overreact to it, but at the same time, I can see how it looks like the government endorsing one particular religion.


I mean, can you imagine how offended people would be if government property put up Muslim religious displays?

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That's a good point, Tica.
Mind you, if the government put up displays for holidays for all religions then I think people would still be offended and on the flip side if they didn't put up any displays at all I reckon other people would be very offended.
I think the government needs to support people and their choices and religions rather than pretending all religions don't exist in the name of "equality". Especially since refusing to acknowledge any religions really only appeases those I call militant atheists.

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Furrhan Blackwood wrote:
I think the government needs to support people and their choices and religions rather than pretending all religions don't exist in the name of "equality".

I think that's roughly how it's done in Belgium. There is (financial) government support for religion, but all recognized religions qualify equally. In practice this means that there is a limited amount of congregations that receives support and when one of them is disbanded (for lack of a better term), that support goes to the next one on the waiting list, but that means that if, say, a Catholic church stops, those funds could then just as well go to a Protestant church as to a Mosque.

Apart from financial support (stipends for preachers and equivalent), parents can also request that their child receives their religion classes in school based on one of these religions. My wife chose Protestant religion in school (even though she was not religious at the time), which was apparently a very relaxed class because she was the only one in the entire school doing that (traditionally, Belgium is Catholic, although for most people that doesn't mean much more than filling out their sacraments-checklist because that's just what everyone does. In practice, I think the majority of Belgium is agnostic or passively atheist.)

To be recognized as a religion, there need to be at least 10 practicing communities and 25000 followers. Currently recognized religions are Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, Anglicanism, Protestantism, Judaism and Islam. Organized non-religious worldviews are also recognized, but under a different term and I don't know what that means for financial support. Apparently Buddhism is in the process of being recognized.

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Do those followers have to be worldwide or do they have to be in Belgium?

It just seems like a big hassle, really. That's why I like how in the US we don't (on paper) give any special treatments to religions. Though we get people trying to get around that, and then atheist "Satanist" groups try to take advantage of those loopholes in protest. :/

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Don't forget the Pastafarians that seem to exist just to exploit those loopholes, Sleet!

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