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Author:  Furrhan Blackwood [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:57 am ]
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Just had to share this. Interesting, isn't it, what people take offence to.

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Author:  UGuardian [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:19 am ]
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Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled
and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

-- Titus 1:15

Author:  Sleet [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:33 am ]
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How many people really are offended by nativity scenes, though?

Author:  UGuardian [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:59 pm ]
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Sleet wrote:
How many people really are offended by nativity scenes, though?


Largely, it seems to depend on where the nativity is displayed. For example, putting on in front of the county court house is probably going to be akin to starting a fight.

Author:  Furrhan Blackwood [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:07 am ]
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Probably just as many people as want to either call Christmas trees "holiday trees" or who want to just ban them outright. :P

Author:  TabbyTim [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:07 pm ]
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UGuardian wrote:
Sleet wrote:
How many people really are offended by nativity scenes, though?


Largely, it seems to depend on where the nativity is displayed. For example, putting on in front of the county court house is probably going to be akin to starting a fight.


Situations like this do seem to be the commonly occurring controversies. Otherwise I think people are more civil with displays of religion than the media makes them out to be.

Author:  TimoKitsune [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:24 pm ]
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Honestly it feels like 8 years after this comic was made, so much has changed culturally that a nativity scene only seems like 1 of a million things people find offensive.

Even Lingerie Secret seems like something that today's feminist would deem to be objectifying women.

Don't get me wrong. I still can see people losing their minds over a nativity scene. It's just that Christianity is now far from exclusive to criticism of the politically correct.

Author:  Douglas Collier [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:04 pm ]
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Then there was the whole "people being offended at a person who was offended by a cup" debacle. :roll:

Author:  Sleet [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:20 pm ]
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I don't think people were offended by the people offended so much as they made fun of them so as to make themselves look good.

Author:  Koshka [ Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:58 am ]
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I don't think I've seen that many people upset over nativity scenes in front of private property, but people do get pretty angry when it's on government property. I do think people tend to overreact to it, but at the same time, I can see how it looks like the government endorsing one particular religion. Some people definitely get disgusted by the other things in that comic though; I follow some anti-porn groups, we definitely get "offended" by in-your-face sex themed ads all the time :P

I feel like I have to say though, the word "offended" has totally changed meanings...it used to mean something akin to "this makes me uncomfortable/disgusted/etc" and now it's almost exclusively just slung out as an accusation at anybody who dares question whether or not a commonplace thing is 100% appropriate, generally with the implication that the "offended" party's feelings are completely invalid. And of course, stopping to think about how your words and actions might affect other people gets you labeled as "politically correct" faster than anything. Also, people tend to assume that whatever somebody is "offended" by, they must want to ban, even though that's often not the case.

Author:  Cervantes [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:10 am ]
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Sleete wrote:
I don't think people were offended by the people offended so much as they made the Wealthy Affiliate article https://affmountain.com/my-wealthy-affi ... nd-results fun of them so as to make themselves look good.


It's funny but it's true.

Author:  Tica [ Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:03 am ]
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Koshka wrote:
I don't think I've seen that many people upset over nativity scenes in front of private property, but people do get pretty angry when it's on government property. I do think people tend to overreact to it, but at the same time, I can see how it looks like the government endorsing one particular religion.


I mean, can you imagine how offended people would be if government property put up Muslim religious displays?

Author:  Furrhan Blackwood [ Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:09 am ]
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That's a good point, Tica.
Mind you, if the government put up displays for holidays for all religions then I think people would still be offended and on the flip side if they didn't put up any displays at all I reckon other people would be very offended.
I think the government needs to support people and their choices and religions rather than pretending all religions don't exist in the name of "equality". Especially since refusing to acknowledge any religions really only appeases those I call militant atheists.

Author:  Tayi [ Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:44 am ]
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Furrhan Blackwood wrote:
I think the government needs to support people and their choices and religions rather than pretending all religions don't exist in the name of "equality".

I think that's roughly how it's done in Belgium. There is (financial) government support for religion, but all recognized religions qualify equally. In practice this means that there is a limited amount of congregations that receives support and when one of them is disbanded (for lack of a better term), that support goes to the next one on the waiting list, but that means that if, say, a Catholic church stops, those funds could then just as well go to a Protestant church as to a Mosque.

Apart from financial support (stipends for preachers and equivalent), parents can also request that their child receives their religion classes in school based on one of these religions. My wife chose Protestant religion in school (even though she was not religious at the time), which was apparently a very relaxed class because she was the only one in the entire school doing that (traditionally, Belgium is Catholic, although for most people that doesn't mean much more than filling out their sacraments-checklist because that's just what everyone does. In practice, I think the majority of Belgium is agnostic or passively atheist.)

To be recognized as a religion, there need to be at least 10 practicing communities and 25000 followers. Currently recognized religions are Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, Anglicanism, Protestantism, Judaism and Islam. Organized non-religious worldviews are also recognized, but under a different term and I don't know what that means for financial support. Apparently Buddhism is in the process of being recognized.

Author:  Sleet [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:02 am ]
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Do those followers have to be worldwide or do they have to be in Belgium?

It just seems like a big hassle, really. That's why I like how in the US we don't (on paper) give any special treatments to religions. Though we get people trying to get around that, and then atheist "Satanist" groups try to take advantage of those loopholes in protest. :/

Author:  Furrhan Blackwood [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:08 am ]
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Don't forget the Pastafarians that seem to exist just to exploit those loopholes, Sleet!

Author:  Liskowic [ Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:32 pm ]
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Double standards....
My religion symbols are offensive but 450 muslims blocking the street praying is totally ok...

Zdechnij europo...i przestan dogorywac.

Author:  Koshka [ Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:21 pm ]
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i'm not really sure what you mean, I haven't heard of muslims blocking streets to pray and when i googled it the top results were a snopes article detailing how photos of an organized and legal parade by Muslims in New York was reframed as an illegal protest by hyperpartisan bloggers, as well as efforts by police in a suburb of Paris to actively prevent Muslims from praying outside of mosques.

also i don't know what the Polish you typed says; google translate doesn't give me anything that sounds like an accurate translation, could you clarify

Author:  Sleet [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:49 am ]
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There's nothing offensive about Christian symbols. Or Muslim symbols.

On the topic, I just saw Coco and I really appreciate how they weren't squeamish about it at all. Crosses everywhere!

Author:  Liskowic [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:16 am ]
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I was according to double standards in most wester european countries where is illegal to pray in public areas. France does not allow that. I personally was told by police officer in paris that i need to hide my cross under my tshirt becayse it is "offensive" but the same police officer had no problem with that a large number of muslims on small muslim music festival started praying. Music festival was a legal thing but it was just an ecscuse for praying in public. Btw that was a quote saying "just die europe before we will die with you" by jan zizka. Czech knight in 1417 before european crusades on followers of jan huss. Sorry i forgot adding translation

Edit. I was told that coco is a good movie. Need to see that

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